tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7723694470723601010.post4125146280593134259..comments2024-01-01T17:31:59.391-06:00Comments on Poems Found in Translation: Rexa Zoelfman: Waking (From Laisaluga)A.Z. Foremanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07178150009150360184noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7723694470723601010.post-24089973299589361162013-07-16T06:43:11.290-05:002013-07-16T06:43:11.290-05:00It's extraordinary that after all of 18 hours&...It's extraordinary that after all of 18 hours' intensive research the excellent sonnet above remains not only the only sonnet in Laisaluga known to me, but, in fact, the only text I've come across in that language.<br /><br />Though Laisaluga looks rather like Basque (eg, the "tx" combination seen frequently above), there are telltale signs that, unlike Basque, it has a certain degree of Indo-European and indeed specifically Romance ancestry. While the translation, rhyming and scanning as it does, may not be absolutely literal, and while the word order of Laisaluga may conceivably differ from European norms, one can with a fair degree of confidence identify the roots of such words as "suen", "sleep", in Italian, "sonno"; "sin", "left (hand)", in Latin "sinister"; "trewu", "find", in French "trouver"; "pluek", "rain", in French "pluie". A composite term like "pedlunge" for "ankle-deep" seems clearly composed of similar roots to the Italian "piede" and "lungo" (ie, "foot-long"), or their slightly less close analogues in various other Romance languages; the word for brain, "tetmonal", almost incorporates the French for "head"; and there's also an obvious logic to the rendering of "lie back" as "rebascu". I am, however, on less sure footing with the sestet, where there are fewer obvious correspondences.<br /><br />It's possible, of course, that Laisaluga (whose name sounds rather Finno-Ugric) is a non-Indo-European language which has, at some stage of its evolution, undergone a profound infusion of Romance vocabulary, rather as was the case with Maltese. However, it would I think be unusual for this to permeate so deeply as to infiltrate basic vocabulary like most of the above (in Maltese, the base vocabulary is primarily Arabic, just as in English, most everyday terms are Anglo-Saxon). Maybe, therefore, Laisaluga is essentially a Romance language which however has inherited certain terms from an older non-Indo-European language spoken in the same region. A fuller exposition, however, will have to wait until further samples of text can be unearthed; from the current sample, for instance, it's not wholly clear to me (although it seemed to be to Selk'nam112) whether "kuxmoneq" means "sky" or "kinship".<br /><br />One curiosity - not being a Laisaluga speaker, I first deduced that "mik" meant "my", "nitrok" meant "our" (a supposition substantiated by the fact that "en nitrakon" appears to mean "each other"), and "vitrok" was "your". This again suggests a Romance root, since it seems analogous to the M / N / V distinction between first person singular, first person plural and second person plural (or polite) in French. Yet if that's the case, and the translation is accurate, shouldn't the second word in the fourth line of the sestet read "nitrok" rather than "vitrok"? I trust you have not made an error in transliterating this most important sample of Laisaluga literature! Moreover, while excusable in the effort to create a rhyming translation, the apparent change from "our brains" ("nitrok tetmonal") to "my brain" does seem to sacrifice some of the original's stress on the couple's shared experience. Still, perhaps such imperfections are, when translating from such a subtle and complex tongue as Laisaluga, inevitable.Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7723694470723601010.post-31722309109000581972013-07-15T14:49:08.409-05:002013-07-15T14:49:08.409-05:00Rexa Zoelfman would seem to be an anagram of Alex ...Rexa Zoelfman would seem to be an anagram of Alex Z Foreman. Coincidence? You decide! Would you care to enlighten us about the genesis of Laisaluga?Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7723694470723601010.post-84348377036296798072013-06-17T23:14:36.295-05:002013-06-17T23:14:36.295-05:00Hey friend, what is laisaluga? Is it a conlang? It...Hey friend, what is laisaluga? Is it a conlang? It does not appear anywhere on the web!Fabianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7723694470723601010.post-27769050198209917382013-06-17T23:13:46.558-05:002013-06-17T23:13:46.558-05:00Hey friend, what is laisaluga? Is it a conlang? It...Hey friend, what is laisaluga? Is it a conlang? It does appear anywhere on the web!Fabianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7723694470723601010.post-83563761373830728122013-05-16T17:53:56.681-05:002013-05-16T17:53:56.681-05:00Good to see there are more people interested in La...Good to see there are more people interested in Laisaluga! I've been learning it for a couple of years, but can't make much progress due to the lack of available material. As for the poem, I enjoyed greatly your last verse: translating "kuxmonéq" into "sky" has not only maintained the rhyme scheme but also preserved the "atmospherical" tone of the word (or at least how I perceive it). The surreptitiously emphatic "kinship" has also a great aesthetical effect, as it echoes back the "affinal" quality of the poem. :)Selk'nam112noreply@blogger.com